rhelz a day ago

I was living in an NYC apartment when the plague hit. Every day an ambulance would come up to our front door, and wheel away another one of my neighbors, feet first, never to be seen again.

Then it was TWO ambulances a day.

I will not abide being accused of "groupthink" by people who somehow convinced themselves that wearing a mask was useless during a plague which was spread from person to person by airborne particles of mucus.

I saw with my own eyes what a big difference it made when people started wearing masks and getting vaccinated. The ambulances stopped coming to my front door.

Enough of this endless spreading of propaganda-fu. Look at where it has gotten us. How much more damage to our government, economy, and civil society do you think we can take?

  • poorts 17 hours ago

    Your experience seems statistically unlikely

    • poorts 11 hours ago

      There were around 51000 deaths in New York from March 2020 to March 2021. For a population of 8.258 million that gives a rate of one death per day per 59101 people. The largest apartment building I found in NYC is London Terrace with 1700 apartments which would need 35 people per apartment to give 59101 people. Deaths were presumably skewed towards the oldest and sickest, and probably correlated with poverty, so if you stayed in a lower-income apartment building with a lot of old people who were likely close to death, then it could be 1 or 2 ambulances per day to take people away "never to be seen again", but it seems improbable.

      I stay in a European country which isn't particularly known for being healthy, and I don't know anyone who died of or even with covid.

      I felt that there was some terrible science coming from all directions in the pandemic years, but to me some of the worst propaganda-fu was coming from the government and traditional media.

techpineapple a day ago

I feel like 50% of the criticism about “liberals” being wrong are valid, and the other 50% mask the different roles liberals and conservatives play in society.

Like Fauci did what, at least if a year of his leadership under Trump? And then the is somehow gets retconned into liberals screwed everything up, and conservatives get to say I told you so? And now Fauci, who took his role under Reagen and led through at least 3 other Republican administrations is a liberal?

We’ve gotten to this place where everyone is afraid to criticize them constant and endless stupidities of certain personalities on the right politicizing nearly everything about the pandemic to, “it’s all liberals fault”.

  • hkpack a day ago

    It is an ad for the book. Like with everything in the US, the goal with this is to make money.

    On the surface level - it is extremely dumb to attribute trust in the institutions to groupthink. Alternative is what we have now - vibe trusting media influencers.

    • poorts 11 hours ago

      Surely a rational alternative is scepticism of everyone, particularly of those that say things that you might otherwise agree with. Longer term, a good alternative is to build trust in institutions through transparency and application of the scientific method (and for the institutions to contribute measurably to outcomes that actually help improve the quality of life of the general-public and not mostly to outcomes that ultimately benefit the princes of the world).